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Title: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on October 15, 2012, 02:15:29 am
Updates will be in yellow
There is one thing I don't like about this server, for example:

Bob: koolio
Bob: koolio,KOOLIO,KKKKKKKKOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLIIIIOO

Now this is about etiquette don't be a Bob, but ask politely like:

Good_guy_Greg: Koolio can you help getting rid of these signs?

NOTE: not  only you ask but you tell us why you need help within the same line to save everyone time from asking...

Bob: KOOLIO!
Koolio: yh?
Bob: Can you help
koolio: with what?
Bob: can you COMEZ!!!!1!!!!!

Please dont do that

Also when you ask
Also: there is no stupid question, dont be afraid to ask in normal chat, we understand if your new to minecraft or bukkit/ a plugin like towny(we where like you at one point).  Plus dont ask to be ranked up to staff/support you earn those ranks.

ASK THE RIGHT PEOPLE
Koolio: can do anything
Support: can do most things
STAFF CANNOT: use WE, give town blocks, rank you up (like rank up to member), cannot ban

How to ask for WorldEdit:
Now there are alot of people wanting world edit and i thought that this is needed:
Things to know about WEI wont go into too much detail but if you want to see more here is this> http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/WorldEdit/Selection#Selecting_cuboids (http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/WorldEdit/Selection#Selecting_cuboids)
Now you dont need to read that much unless you want to use it for single player but when you ask SUPPORT OR UP for WE make sure you have the building you want, the new location and 2 opposite ends of a cuboid marked out if possible
And i think for these reasons some support haven't  done any WE involving jobs because it gets annoying
WE is a powerful tool and it's not just to move stuff So when you ask be specific as possible.

Do's and dont of waiting
DO:
Dont:
We know your waiting be we might be lagging or other stuff also use [TAB] to see which staff is online

One last thing: Dont ask for someone to ban a player for pvp logging/griefing (depends)/using nodus, and dont ask for free items(unless it's sponges OR depending on the circumstances)

===What is available?===

Spawners are for $30,000

Note:No creepers, No Ghasts, No Boss Mobs, Nether mobs stay in the nether!

Warp Signs are for $20,000
Note:No warps to The End, or to a end portal

World edits are free

Note:Only support can WE, read the section on how to ask for WE

Sponges are free

Note:Each staff member has limits for how many you get at a time, dont ask for 64+

Town Blocks are $1000 Each

Note:Only support can sell, only mayors of towns can buy, 50 blocks at a time

Thanks for reading ~bluedudex2

EDIT: Make sure to read koolio's post down below for even more detail on this subject!

(last updated 1/20/13)
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: ~Sly on October 15, 2012, 03:29:36 am
or you can just spawm "KOOLIO!!!!1!" to the point that you forget your original question :3
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Koolio on October 15, 2012, 04:30:39 am
... I'll sticky this post, thanks bluedudex2.

Will be looking at making another ingame announcement that makes this more concise and less Koolio Etiquette specific .

  - §lEtiquette§f, how not to be annoy, especially to §c~§5Koolio
  - §bDo not ask to ask! Instead politely ask the question, wait abit :)
  - §aGOOD example§a "Koolio, how to vote for your awesome server?"
  - §eWhat not to do "Koolio?" "Koolio??!?!"§c..ad nauseam, bad idea!

Another announcement example...

  - §f§l------------Rules------------
  - $s$s§4- Don't Spam! Also ask a question once, not over and over.
  - $s$s§c- No Advertising! Use server lists for that etc.
  - $s$s§6- No hacks! Heavy nocheat spam will get you in trouble!
  - $s$s§e- Try not to annoy anyone! tp/spawn killing and town trolling.
  - $s$s§a- Serious greifing will be restored and you rolled out server.



If anyone wants to have a go at taking those examples and making one that could be used on the server for any specific reason they think would help, then go ahead.. if its good, you can get your own command version of an announcement you've made aswel (not to be spammed or abused of course).

Can have as many lines as you want though max 6 is usually more than enough, the length per line needs to be roughly the same as the above, or the line gets split onto a new line and ruins pre formated the look.

Good color formatting helps.. also instead of &a for green.. the plugin requires §a


=====================================

And yeh it stopped being polite to ask for someone to help(without explicilty saying exactly what it is you need help with) over the internet since like 'nineteen footsack' :D

Mainly because whoever that person who is that might be able to help you, then has to then engage in a typing back just to ask you what you need help with exactly... 

Typing isn't as fast as just talking to someone orally.

Net Etiquette
Just ask the question

It's irritating when people ask "Can someone help?" or they ask just one particular person.

If you have a question, then just go ahead and ask it out to everyone, and if you need help with something... Then also state exactly what you need help with and it will usually help your request get sorted out faster, if you say exactly why you need something done.

-"Can you come here"...

Asking this without, already saying why it is you need someone to come to you, is another very annoying question, oftens leads someone to then have to ask you why they need to come to you. Something you should have already stated beforehand.

-"I've lost my items"...

If you have lost your items, you should be saying why you have, and what items were the most important that you want replacing. Cases like this really help if you just sum up all the stuff you had lost, in the form of diamonds. It's easier for staff to reimburse you money or particular items... this totally excludes enchanted items.


Help yourself, get better help..

If you aren't getting the help you need, then maybe you should think about what it is you are asking, and how you are asking it. Addressing both those areas and trying again might lead to your request being fore filled.



Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: masktails on October 15, 2012, 04:01:20 pm
Now i feel said  :(
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Koolio on October 15, 2012, 04:20:10 pm
why?
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on October 15, 2012, 11:42:55 pm
@koolio no problem and thanks for adding more detail in your post
@sly you would probably get muted if you kept spamming
@masktails why?
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: LunarBrick on October 16, 2012, 12:02:33 am
Excellent! I'mma just give the spammers the link :D
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: masktails on October 16, 2012, 05:55:19 pm
Because i do what you said is a bad example. :( (http://data.whicdn.com/images/39206478/tumblr_m8fxykeQGO1qkzz2eo1_500_thumb.jpg) <- this is an example of me and my friend doing bad things.
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on October 16, 2012, 11:57:01 pm
Everyone does and i hope we can change it ;D
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: LunarBrick on October 17, 2012, 04:38:47 am
Out of curiousity, is Ethan and Jason from a game you thought of when you wrote the post?
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on October 17, 2012, 11:38:27 pm
yea (last vid of this game was released today by pewdiepie)
And in the future i plan on making some more post like these to help people/address some problems
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on October 21, 2012, 08:19:56 pm
UPDATE: Just added a section of How to ask for World Edit
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: LunarBrick on October 31, 2012, 04:55:23 am
Koolio, you should add this as an command. There's so many people I want to slap this on their faces when they keep asking me for help.
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Koolio on October 31, 2012, 05:08:54 am
I put the info on how to make a command.. do it and I'll add it.
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on November 03, 2012, 09:24:34 pm
added the Do's and Dont's of waiting and might add more later today
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: RedArrow on November 12, 2012, 09:07:31 pm
I'm getting annoyed from people who use caps all the time and spam all the time, maybe the staff can be stricter in the main chat for people who are talking in caps and spamming?

I don't mean a ban, I just want them to be warned, so mute or kick will do for me...
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Koolio on November 12, 2012, 09:16:19 pm
drop some names...  that usually helps
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: RedArrow on November 12, 2012, 09:35:33 pm
Today I have to say Lolly...... was doing that shit all the time, I'll watch around and report some other names when they stand out.
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on November 12, 2012, 09:50:02 pm
it gets really annoying
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: LunarBrick on November 12, 2012, 11:30:56 pm
They don't really get their lesson after we like, mute them about 5 times Lol
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: RedArrow on November 14, 2012, 07:30:10 pm
Today it's NVTseven, and also his behavior on this server isn't really good...
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on November 14, 2012, 11:38:25 pm
§a =Useful kraftzone guides=
§6 How to: Ask §5 http://kraftzone.tk/HowToAsk (http://kraftzone.tk/forum/index.php?topic=439.0)
§b How to: Apply §5 http://kraftzone.tk/HowToApply (http://kraftzone.tk/forum/index.php?topic=241.0)
§b Towny guide for kraftzone§5 http://kraftzone.tk/TownyGuide (http://kraftzone.tk/forum/index.php?topic=573)

Just an idea like /vote it would automatically show up once in awhile
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Koolio on November 15, 2012, 12:07:49 am
oh sure, can make them short links like http://kraftzone.tk/HowToAsk (http://kraftzone.tk/HowToAsk)

I'll look at doing something like that soon as in game announcement
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on November 15, 2012, 02:14:06 am
Sure when i get back on the computer i hate modifying posts on mobile
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on November 15, 2012, 03:08:55 am
done made it short links
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: RedArrow on November 17, 2012, 10:31:44 pm
Today 3PIKman didn't quit using caps after I asked him and some other guys to. BTW I asked it more then 5 times.
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: CopyableCougar4 on November 22, 2012, 12:03:27 am
§a =Useful kraftzone guides=
§6 How to: Ask §5 http://kraftzone.tk/HowToAsk (http://kraftzone.tk/forum/index.php?topic=439.0)
§b How to: Apply §5 http://kraftzone.tk/HowToApply (http://kraftzone.tk/forum/index.php?topic=241.0)
§b Towny guide for kraftzone§5 http://kraftzone.tk/TownyGuide (http://kraftzone.tk/forum/index.php?topic=573)

Just an idea like /vote it would automatically show up once in awhile

This is a test for me with colors
 =Useful kraftzone guides=
 How to: Ask  http://kraftzone.tk/HowToAsk (http://kraftzone.tk/forum/index.php?topic=439.0)
 How to: Apply  http://kraftzone.tk/HowToApply (http://kraftzone.tk/forum/index.php?topic=241.0)
 Towny guide for kraftzone http://kraftzone.tk/TownyGuide (http://kraftzone.tk/forum/index.php?topic=573)
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on November 22, 2012, 12:10:04 am
koolio can change them if he wants btw §b is light blue and how to ask is gold because it is the most important
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: CopyableCougar4 on November 22, 2012, 01:05:09 am
Like the golden rule?
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on November 22, 2012, 02:27:13 am
Sure
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: F143_MAN on November 27, 2012, 11:56:29 pm
Hey just testing something guys
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Bob on January 20, 2013, 06:58:55 am
what is minecraft? and why am i banned on the server?
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: RedArrow on January 20, 2013, 11:48:20 am
I wonder who you are bob :P
Title: Re: How to ask [UPDATED]
Post by: bluedudex2 on January 21, 2013, 01:10:29 am
Added what is available section.
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on January 21, 2013, 09:05:00 pm
§f§l---World Edit Guidelines---
§4First, only support and up can World Edit
§cMark out two opposite ends of a cuboid (two corners of a 3D rectangle)
§cThe cuboid should include a high and a low point, can also be flat
§6Make sure you have enough room first before we paste in a build
§eBe as descriptive as you can

command can be /aedit or /aWE something like that
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: RedArrow on January 21, 2013, 09:21:04 pm
The colors failed...
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Koolio on January 21, 2013, 09:28:48 pm
Needs more info ... I think a http://kraftzone.tk/worldedit (http://kraftzone.tk/worldedit)


Link should be included where a page can be done giving basic info on requesting flat areas..

http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/WorldEdit/Selection (http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/WorldEdit/Selection)


"§cMark out two opposite ends of a cuboid (two corners of a 3D rectangle)"

sometimes I just think a picture would explain it better,  or maybe a location on the map that has a building, and wool blocks at opposite ends to show them....?
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on January 21, 2013, 09:36:51 pm
i'll get to it
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Koolio on January 21, 2013, 09:46:56 pm
The colors failed...

I dunno, guess he needs something like this...

(http://kraftzone.tk/colortext.png)

my little tool for testing minecraft colors as you type without needing minecraft... its pretty awesome but not sure if I'll release it.
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on January 22, 2013, 06:30:33 am
i do need that
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: LunarBrick on March 15, 2013, 12:36:23 am
Blue, since you changed the person to Bob, make the quote "Don't be a Ethan" into "Don't be a Bob"
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Thecyberhedgehog on March 15, 2013, 10:22:57 am
ikr
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bluedudex2 on March 15, 2013, 08:53:54 pm
Blue, since you changed the person to Bob, make the quote "Don't be a Ethan" into "Don't be a Bob"

who do you think i am? quicknloans?

:D
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: LunarBrick on March 15, 2013, 11:48:56 pm
Yes. We expect to do it PRONTO
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Thecyberhedgehog on March 16, 2013, 12:31:20 am
Gimmeh mah moneh
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: LunarBrick on March 16, 2013, 05:58:13 pm
NEBAR.
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: bekwon on May 11, 2013, 08:25:07 am
WAT?
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: RedArrow on May 11, 2013, 03:23:06 pm
nothing, since this topic is more then one month old...
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Dilly2k on May 11, 2013, 07:15:03 pm
WAT?
you dumbass, read the damn date before you fucking post random nonsense about this.
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: TheLoneWolf119 on August 18, 2013, 03:35:35 am
Isn't blue banned?
Title: Re: How to ask
Post by: Dilly2k on August 18, 2013, 03:46:24 am
Really.........

He's been banned for a month in a half